tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372693484053299675.post215969307388482808..comments2024-03-28T00:56:10.986-04:00Comments on Throne of Salt: Three Dread Horrors: A Legend of Korra PostDanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00694362417308874455noreply@blogger.comBlogger22125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372693484053299675.post-11385692279306531992023-01-30T19:54:33.995-05:002023-01-30T19:54:33.995-05:00Coming back to this post 2 years late, because I h...Coming back to this post 2 years late, because I hadn't watched any Avatar or Korra at the time. My wife and I just finished AtlA and s1-3 of Korra, and watching s4 right now. <br /><br />I find myself in broad agreement. I like a bunch of the little things that they did in LoK's worldbuilding, but there is a *lot* more sighing and grinding of teeth and "thanks I hate it" and rooting for the ostensible 'villains' than there was with Avatar. <br /><br />We're still going to finish off the series, but >blegh.<Allandaroshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01046079318999891967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372693484053299675.post-60403745925553500652021-03-07T00:38:24.642-05:002021-03-07T00:38:24.642-05:00This has given me a lot to think about. I've b...This has given me a lot to think about. I've been plotting and scheming a "post-apoc 150 years after LoK" timeline, and after reading this I will have to go back and change a lot of it.<br />In short, thank you very much for writing this. It must not have been easy, but it needed to be said.Saker Tarsoshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01298776133477428058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372693484053299675.post-45175604571288571032021-02-15T08:55:59.140-05:002021-02-15T08:55:59.140-05:00Someone recommended that to me on twitter and I bi...Someone recommended that to me on twitter and I binged all of them in one go.Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00694362417308874455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372693484053299675.post-74390840611595561062021-02-15T01:45:42.484-05:002021-02-15T01:45:42.484-05:00Legend of Korra being a Neo-Liberal nightmare worl...Legend of Korra being a Neo-Liberal nightmare world is explored more heavily in youtuber Kay And Skittles's "The Politics of The Legend of Korra" series. Highly recommended, if you haven't seen it already.Bluechohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02639489100112616694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372693484053299675.post-74115384669178977872021-02-13T10:40:24.957-05:002021-02-13T10:40:24.957-05:00While doing the rewatch of the original series it ...While doing the rewatch of the original series it really sunk in how many of the best episodes were written by Elizabeth Welch Ehasz. Without her we don't get "Zuko Alone" or "Appa's Lost Days"Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00694362417308874455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372693484053299675.post-71811928993966328622021-02-12T22:45:11.959-05:002021-02-12T22:45:11.959-05:00AtlA had three main writers and a host of sub-writ...AtlA had three main writers and a host of sub-writers who were there to make sure the main ones didn't do something too stupid. Korra had the two who came up with ideas but couldn't write plot or characters and Dragon Prince had the one who could write characters but no settings. Both these successor shows had small writing teams of people who could fill the gaps and somewhat erratic budgets (Dave Filoni went from AtlA to Star Wars The Clone Wars because Lucas liked his art). Both the successor show matched the creator's pet ideologies even when committing antagonist ideology sabotage.<br />The Last Airbender was very much not a one-off but it will continue to be one until someone realizes that writers need to work together and cover for each other.Morgan Longhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09317608230683016769noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372693484053299675.post-39920971740489065032021-02-11T23:42:03.380-05:002021-02-11T23:42:03.380-05:00I have long said that Dragon prince is a series ma...I have long said that Dragon prince is a series made entirely of solid Avatar B-plots, and I will stick by that. Can't wait till season 4 (give us more Amaya and her sun elf ladyfriend, writers!)Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00694362417308874455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372693484053299675.post-71407681613997367592021-02-11T22:52:57.626-05:002021-02-11T22:52:57.626-05:00You might like The Dragon Prince. Unlike Voltron,...You might like The Dragon Prince. Unlike Voltron, which commits a lot of Korra's sins, it's a lot more faithful to moral heart of The Last Airbender.<br /><br />The most recent season was supposed to be the last, although I hear it's getting another one eventually. Still, it's a story about trying to repair thousand year old rifts by acting with kindness and grace. It's not equal to ATLA, but what is?M-and-Dhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17254693753623240219noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372693484053299675.post-49360425463518271922021-02-11T20:57:51.395-05:002021-02-11T20:57:51.395-05:00No worries, got rid of the duplicate.No worries, got rid of the duplicate.Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00694362417308874455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372693484053299675.post-81669945721267574312021-02-11T20:57:24.163-05:002021-02-11T20:57:24.163-05:00And that is super weird for someone who spent thei...And that is super weird for someone who spent their formative years with Katara as their mentor.Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00694362417308874455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372693484053299675.post-15376069044818855932021-02-11T19:29:14.864-05:002021-02-11T19:29:14.864-05:00Whoops.Whoops.Matt Stromhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18348894314974680211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372693484053299675.post-31338274129512510332021-02-11T19:28:45.667-05:002021-02-11T19:28:45.667-05:00Amen. I had the same sinking feeling throughout th...Amen. I had the same sinking feeling throughout the whole series. A total betrayal of Avatar.Matt Stromhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18348894314974680211noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372693484053299675.post-52365674773739168292021-02-11T17:09:22.912-05:002021-02-11T17:09:22.912-05:00Korra, to me, comes across as someone who's ju...Korra, to me, comes across as someone who's just... unmoored from meaningful goals or emotional bonds. If one of my players handed me her as a character sheet, I would ask them to rewrite the backstory to give her some stronger motivation-hooks.Goblinisthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05128414529043405261noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372693484053299675.post-33604096911294604992021-02-11T15:52:06.318-05:002021-02-11T15:52:06.318-05:00Nice analysis, Dan! I can't say I've watch...Nice analysis, Dan! I can't say I've watched ATLA or Korra, but I think it's important to show deeper meaning in kids' media. Among other reasons, I think it helps nudge the Overton window in a better direction. So thanks for doing this piece. :) Sorry about the existential dread.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372693484053299675.post-29925281972078528252021-02-11T14:38:49.669-05:002021-02-11T14:38:49.669-05:00I saw that comment, good call, thanksI saw that comment, good call, thanksmaxcan7https://www.blogger.com/profile/12504030224075149157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372693484053299675.post-42398676111748630932021-02-11T13:48:16.848-05:002021-02-11T13:48:16.848-05:00I have deleted a comment here on the grounds that ...I have deleted a comment here on the grounds that I have no place or patience for using antifa as a boogeyman. Antifa isn't an organization, it's an adjective.Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00694362417308874455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372693484053299675.post-70616673540467856622021-02-11T13:43:33.470-05:002021-02-11T13:43:33.470-05:00FixedFixedDanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00694362417308874455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372693484053299675.post-85270438391808310472021-02-11T12:39:31.259-05:002021-02-11T12:39:31.259-05:00AtlA wore its heart on its sleeve: imperialism is ...AtlA wore its heart on its sleeve: imperialism is bad, empowering the disenfranchised is good, people raised into bad can become good when they realise how the bad hurts others and themselves. Korra...empowers no one, does not reflect on her actions meaningfully, and hooks up with the heir of Ford Motors in the end of series disney moment. Sheesh.Monsieur Le Battlierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01034479512314483527noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372693484053299675.post-81585163569029014432021-02-11T12:28:01.618-05:002021-02-11T12:28:01.618-05:00The Music was VERY good. OG avatar had a few memor...The Music was VERY good. OG avatar had a few memorable tunes and good main theme but due to its structure didn't get a chance to play around with more complex themes or leitmotifs. LoK, due to budget or planning or idk what, has some truly slapping themes. <br /><br />I also really liked the final season as a pulling together of the disparate elements (heh) of the first 3 villains via showing the effect they'd had on Korra and her mental state. Made the previous seasons feel more connected and relevant, a welcome feeling since LoK had previously struggled with actual status quo changes. (oh! And while the equalist arc is low to high key dumb the final scene where the senator blows him and his brother up because he realizes how far they've fallen is great)Annon #8107https://www.blogger.com/profile/16869484989966434932noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372693484053299675.post-39313280755913835352021-02-11T12:19:04.364-05:002021-02-11T12:19:04.364-05:00The black panther villain was named Killmonger, no...The black panther villain was named Killmonger, not Warmonger. otherwise great points, agree 100%... Captain Crowbarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11959402382179885595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372693484053299675.post-72779523216270828002021-02-11T10:45:33.675-05:002021-02-11T10:45:33.675-05:00I'm actually working through Avatar and Korra ...I'm actually working through Avatar and Korra for the first time! In fact, I'm currently a few episodes into season 3 of Korra.<br /><br />This is a really interesting analysis, and I agree with the individual points, but not necessarily that it betrays the original series, but that gets into a broader critique I have of Avatar and feelings I have between the two series that is sort of besides the point of this post but actually something I was thinking of writing a post about myself at some point...<br /><br />Another side note I'd argue Black Panther does a good job of acknowledging what you're saying and threading that line and (mostly) not succumbing to "antagonist ideology sabotage" (incidentally I hate that as well and I like this term for it). I don't feel so strongly about that to get into an argument about it or anything, I can see why it might go over the line for someone else, but I do think it's handling in BP is much better than Korra.<br /><br />Anyway, this was an interesting post, thanks for sharing these thoughts.maxcan7https://www.blogger.com/profile/12504030224075149157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3372693484053299675.post-88174357640608512112021-02-11T09:07:31.895-05:002021-02-11T09:07:31.895-05:00Tenzin and family were good, Red Lotus was good, m...Tenzin and family were good, Red Lotus was good, music was good.Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00694362417308874455noreply@blogger.com